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Reading me loud and clear. Yeah. Yeah. Got you, mate. Can't be arsed. Come the earth. Can't be arsed of struggling motivation. Not feeling motivated today. Not feeling motivated. You've had a busy old day. So I've got a busy day of a busy couple of weeks. I'm lying just to sort of make the the tile work nicely because I always enjoy this.  Mr. Motivator, this motivated. What motivates you, mate? How do you get motivated for something? I don't know. I go through bouts where I feel more motivated and less motivated. Think that's normal? Um, I'm feeling pretty motivated at the moment on my health and up to state and um, you know me get hyper obsessive about things and an by health and fitness at the moment. Yeah. So you've been doing all the tracking the tracking stuff and. Yeah. Steps in that. Yeah. 10,000 steps. Yeah. My legs ache. So I'm an old man.  Yeah, that side of stuff. Really? I would. That would almost demotivate me a little bit. Yeah. But you're pretty motivated, though. Yeah, but it's funny. I think, like, again, even if, say, like you had two people both wanted to focus on their way and how. Yeah. Think like anything. Motivation for you is quite, it seems quite like focused in the detail you want, like you want to be so really on it. Yeah. Whereas for me I find it fun to like that sometimes. The more I get told to do it, the more structured it's got to be. My brain goes boring physically helps. Yeah. I need a real goal as well. Like real. Which as we spoke about in the success episode, Elizabeth said yes, you identified it as a goal and then you appreciate it when you get there. Yeah, definitely, Definitely. Motivation is I mean, it runs through our lives, doesn't it? And that's our work, our Alf, our love life, our,  you know, so many different things. You think so? Think though with motivation people might think of. I don't know. Motivating themselves to do something they don't want to do all this difficult and every time in your life where you're lacking motivation. Yeah, but what I would say is that sometimes you it might just be there. You could find something that does motivate you even in those really sort of low motivation times. Yeah. And I wonder if that's all builds the same muscle, if you like. Yeah, same kind of. See, because in which have you ever lacked motivation for?  Cooking a barbecue. Not necessarily work related stuff. God, yes, you have. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um. Yeah. When I've been busy, when I've had a run of barbecues, I definitely am lucky motivation at that point. Um, usually by this point at the end of the season that I'm pretty run out of motivation. And, um. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not so much this year. I've balanced myself a bit, but I found that balance and I found that I. About motivating, but not more using that word than we did. That's right. Yeah. Then it'll be in the transcript now. Do the algorithms on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, even we're not even having a conversation. We just say motivation. Oh, yeah? Yeah. This guess the self-motivation and getting motivated by others. And, um. Yeah, it's all self really think because, like, ultimately, if you don't decide the matter, where else does. It's it's got to be driven by you. I don't. I don't think if you you outsource your motivation that's you will borrow time. You outsource it. Yes. Oh I suppose again like going to a for you that's kind of outsourcing it there. But if you could very equally you could go to your get all the lovely motivation from him. Yeah. Turn off the zoom call and not do any of it. Yeah. So if you don't motivate yourself then it's not a. And even with a joke or something someone's telling you to do. Otherwise you lose your job. You still have to do it. Yeah. Otherwise you lose. Well, I'll keep my gas and mouth open. Money? Um. Yeah, yeah. Have different things. Pushing family. That's an interesting one, because